By LG

Weeden Banner profileBrandon Weeden is the furthest thing away from the type of quarterback that Joe Banner likes. In his 19 year career with the Eagles Banner had some quarterbacks that could move to extend plays with their feet. Weeden is not a mobile quarterback. He doesn’t run well at all. Through the 19 year history in Philadelphia Joe Banner always had a guy that could scramble for the most part. Take a look at some of the names he had as the Eagles starting quarterbacks. Michael Vick, Donovan McNabb,¬†Randall Cunningham and a few others.¬† You’ll notice all these guys could move and they had hundreds of rushing yards for the Eagles as well as a ton of passing yards.

Banner did have one or two guys who couldn’t run like some on this list, if you look at the history, they didn’t last long. Most of the guys Joe Banner had at the Q.B. spot could run like a running back. The Browns drafted Weeden who has done a fine job showing he could throw the ball. The Problem for Weeden is he just might not fit the profile Joe Banner likes to see from one of his quarterbacks. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall to hear some of the conversations that take place between Banner and new team owner Jimmy Haslam.

When the Browns played the Eagles this season for their opening game of the regular season, Haslam made a comment that the Browns needed a quarterback after the game. Of course this was Weeden’s first game in the NFL and he set a record for sucking on opening day. He has been much improved since and continues to make moves towards getting better. The Browns front office didn’t know the team would be sold when they picked Weeden in the draft and knowing the profile of the quarterbacks that Joe Banner likes wasn’t a consideration at that point.

There has been talk about Haslam’s like for Colt McCoy and I just wonder if Banner had something to do with that. McCoy was the leading rusher all four years he played in Texas and Banner likes a guy that can run with the football. This has nothing to do with Weeden being better than McCoy or McCoy being better than Weeden folks. So before you start bashing me as a Weeden hater, go look at the history of the Eagles Q.B.’s under the Banner watch. You will see first hand that Brandon Weeden doesn’t really fit the Banner profile of a quarterback…..

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Readers Comments (19)

  1. marty stys

    Weedon not being able to run shouldn’t be as critical. If he has other assets to make-up for running. It is just what I seen so far, is that he is way over-rated.He doesn,t have the heart for the game,his ego, and he is not a accurate thrower. 4 seconds to throw gives a quarter back time to look down field,plant his feet and throw. If weedon played last year in Cleveland he would of been flat out destroyed. That being able to run saved colt mccoy from being eaten alive.

     
  2. RICK

    WOW LG, Another blockbuster!!!! I knew you would find that crystal ball you had lying around there for emergencies. I see your tight with Haslam & Banner we cant lose next year. All of our problems are solved.

     
  3. ABrown

    It’s an interesting question, Rick. I think most Browns fans are wondering what the new owner will do.

    LG I think the mobility factor isn’t just about running for yards but being able to move in the pocket to use sight lines (avoiding hitting linemen with throws) and help your linemen keep themselves between the rusher and the quarterback.

    On Monday night Peyton Manning was able to keep a crucial drive alive just because he was mobile enough to step over a defender and keep from getting tripped up.

     
    • LG

      One other thing I wonder about ABrown is if Brandon Weeden really is intelligent enough to get playing in the NFL. I was rather surprised just how long it took him to understand the play book and from what I am told by some people in the know, is he still hasn’t got the whole play book down yet…

       
      • ABrown

        It does seem like he’s being propped up and protected in unprecedented ways — more so than most rookie quarterbacks.

         
    • ricktenny

      ABROWN@ On your comment of Peyton being mobile in the pocket. Are we saying he’s mobile because he can still pick his leg up?
      I’m not trying to be a smart ass, it was just a mental image I got when I read it and wanted to share. Then it hit me, Weeden is to far from there.

       
      • ABrown

        Yeah, Rick, a defender had fallen down trying to wrap him up and Manning stepped over him and out of his grasp to free himself up to throw. The broadcasters were laughing and marveling at Manning’s play in this case but it was laughter of admiration.

        The first time we played the Bengals, Weeden actually tripped over his own feet, so I think Manning has Weeden beat in mobility.

         
  4. buckeyestu

    well well well, i hope there is a huge housecleaning, starting with weeden and shurmur.

     
  5. DMC

    I couldn’t agree with Banner more. Just look at all the Superbowls he won in Philly with QBs that could run. Couple that with the fact none of the recent Superbowl winners had pocket passers at QB and we have all the evidence we need.

    F-me.

     
    • LG

      DMC I don’t think you seen that Banner got to the Super Bowl but didn’t win one with Philly…

       
  6. ABrown

    There are a lot of excuses for Weeden, most about his being a rookie. When McNabb came in as a rookie the Eagles went from 5 and 11 the previous year to 11 and 5 with McNabb.

    That made me curious about QBs who started their rookie seasons in recent years. In that pretty large group, only Clausen at Carolina, Gabbert at Jacksonville, Fitzpatrick at Buffalo, Campbell at Washington, and Cutler at Denver failed to get more wins for their team than the year before they arrived.

    Newton, Bradford, Flacco, Ryan, and Stafford exceeded their teams previos year’s records, and this year Luck, RGIII, Wilson, and Tannenhill are on track to join them.

    The Browns should probably be 3 and 3 at this point given the strength of our opponents, but we aren’t. We have a pretty easy schedule the rest of the year considering the current strength of our opponents. There will be plenty of opportunities to get more wins. Let’s hope we do.

     
  7. marty stys

    I think the new owner will want to be involved. I hope he will address our weak points. We don’t have a crazy pass rusher, someone that reacts first then thinks about it.We definitely need another corner. Its too early to pass judgment on the last two receivers. I try to remain optimistic about Weedon, but he still shows me nothing.The offensive line for protection has greatly improved, but we still need that offensive lineman that can blow a hole open for the backs to burst thru.

     
    • ABrown

      Sounds good to me Marty. I think we’re going to see a much stronger team very soon.

       
  8. Daniel Jones

    The Browns finally have a quarterback that plays like he belongs and you guys cant leave well enough alone,look at how ineffective Vick has been this year,what is the shelf life of running quartwerbacks,half that of pocket passers?Dont you guys remember the successful quarterback whom ran like a giraffe,Bernie Kosar.You wouldnt say Peyton Manning or Tom Brady is a running quarterback but they are the regarded the best at their position,get a clue.

     
    • LG

      Hey Daniel, we posed a question. We have a clue and the clue is that Banner likes scrambling quarterbacks. All we did with this article was to ask what the public thinks….

       
  9. Anonymous

    LG@
    Your comment about Weedens smarts got me to thinking about that B/R article about his ego.
    You gotta wonder about any guy having lost his fourth straight NFL game in a row, and then say’s I have to leave my ego in the tunnel and we’ll be alright.
    Maybe he should have left that part of his problems in Stillwater.

     
  10. Anonymous

    Mcnabb, vick and cunningham only ran ’cause none of them are elite Qb’s. Did any of them win the big one? NO!! None of them will make it to the Hall of Fame!

     
    • LG

      That is funny, Donovan Mcnabb is the Eagles all-time leader in every major passing category, He had more wins as the Eagles starter than anyone else in team history how you could say he won’t go to the H.O.F. is pretty funny…. Randall Cunningham did pretty well in his 10 years with the team too. So the point is all these q.b.’s could move well and complete a lot of passes too. They were all great athletes….

       
      • ABrown

        Hey, there’s one thing you can say about Weeden. He’s a natural for the Statue of Liberty play!

         

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